Wednesday, March 25, 2009
Wolf Block is dead!!!
Well, one major Philadelphia legal institution for the past 106 years passed away. Wolf block voted to disband the other day. The reasons that have been put forward are: mergers and acquisitions, structured finance or real estate focused practice; the economic recession; the current credit crunch; and oh, the fact that the partners did not want to stand behind their own firm. One report I read indicated that a large part of this was that not very many of the partners wanted to personally ensure the line of credit that they needed to take out for operating expenses, and that they were upset that profits were down so the partners only made $321,000 on average in 2008 (Down from $400,000 in 2007).
Some Links:
Philly Inquirer--Wolf Block Lawyers Face Difficult Job-hunting Climate
Philly Daily News--Wolf Block Lawyers Left Only With Fond Memories
Legal Intelligencer--No Easy Answers in Wolf Block's Demise
Legal Intelligencer--Credit Woes, Failed Merger Bids Take Toll on Wolf Block
Wall Street Journal--Wolf Block to Dissolve Philadelphia Law Firm
Business Journal--Wolf Block law firm to dissolve
The thing is that I believe that many firms large and small do not get the concept that there needs to be at least a vague semblance of a pyramidal structure of leadership. The fact is that most firms, even those mega firms like Dechert are too top heavy. There are too many partners and equity partners and not enough accountability. When you have too many partners, you can not get them to all agree on anything, and in fact you are likely to have many of them making more conservative moves without their names on the door or their own personal money invested. The partners will rarely put themselves out of work, and you can be sure that all of the partners from this dissolution will end up somewhere else. The young attorneys will be scrambling, and I wouldn't be surprised to see some of them on contract jobs in the future.
As far as why you should be concerned. While I have not heard of Wolf Block hiring any contractors in the last five years (so we are not really losing a contract employer), as I just mentioned, there are that many other lawyers out there looking for work. Will they deign to do contract work? In this economy, probably. Will they be able to find associate or partner positions? It sounds like many are already lining up these positions, but of course that means any contractor looking for an associate position is going to find it that much harder to find one. And with some firms already delaying first year start dates, I wouldn't be surprised to hear that offers are rescinded putting more recent grads in the desperate position of needing to work anywhere. Also, don't forget that many firms suffer from a top heavy management structure, and layoffs at major firms have been touching all levels. A dissolution could happen to any firm in the near future, even Pepper Hamilton, Morgan Lewis, or Dechert. So even those of you who have been contracting at those places for years, are not necessarily safe (and certainly less safe than the associates or partners).
For those of you who would use this to point out that contracting is just as secure as any other job out there, think again. If you are an associate somewhere, even if all you have ever done is Document Review work, you are perceived to have a skill set, as a contractor you are not. As an associate, even in situations like this you are entitled to certain benefits, or portions thereof, as a contractor you are entitled to nothing. As a contractor, you will likely be the first one out on the street, and the last one to be hired by a new firm. There is more job security as a full-time employee, and a recognized skill set that comes along with the position which makes you more mobile when it comes to looking for new employment.
Contract attorneys actually do have a skill set, but you wouldn't know it from the way firms treat applicants for full-time positions that have primarily contract experience, nor from the way that they treat contractors on document reviews for the firms (firms tend to treat contractors as idiots who barely graduated high school, and believe that anyone can do the work, though the last associate that I saw code a document screwed it up and crashed the system). The real question is how to make that skill set known and transferable.
I digress though, what are your thoughts.
As far as those of you asking about additional work, I have no updates other than to say it sounds like several contract firms are trolling for resumes. And I am sure for positions to post people in, but many of them do not have positions ready immediately.
Feel free to comment.
Black Sheep
Some Links:
Philly Inquirer--Wolf Block Lawyers Face Difficult Job-hunting Climate
Philly Daily News--Wolf Block Lawyers Left Only With Fond Memories
Legal Intelligencer--No Easy Answers in Wolf Block's Demise
Legal Intelligencer--Credit Woes, Failed Merger Bids Take Toll on Wolf Block
Wall Street Journal--Wolf Block to Dissolve Philadelphia Law Firm
Business Journal--Wolf Block law firm to dissolve
The thing is that I believe that many firms large and small do not get the concept that there needs to be at least a vague semblance of a pyramidal structure of leadership. The fact is that most firms, even those mega firms like Dechert are too top heavy. There are too many partners and equity partners and not enough accountability. When you have too many partners, you can not get them to all agree on anything, and in fact you are likely to have many of them making more conservative moves without their names on the door or their own personal money invested. The partners will rarely put themselves out of work, and you can be sure that all of the partners from this dissolution will end up somewhere else. The young attorneys will be scrambling, and I wouldn't be surprised to see some of them on contract jobs in the future.
As far as why you should be concerned. While I have not heard of Wolf Block hiring any contractors in the last five years (so we are not really losing a contract employer), as I just mentioned, there are that many other lawyers out there looking for work. Will they deign to do contract work? In this economy, probably. Will they be able to find associate or partner positions? It sounds like many are already lining up these positions, but of course that means any contractor looking for an associate position is going to find it that much harder to find one. And with some firms already delaying first year start dates, I wouldn't be surprised to hear that offers are rescinded putting more recent grads in the desperate position of needing to work anywhere. Also, don't forget that many firms suffer from a top heavy management structure, and layoffs at major firms have been touching all levels. A dissolution could happen to any firm in the near future, even Pepper Hamilton, Morgan Lewis, or Dechert. So even those of you who have been contracting at those places for years, are not necessarily safe (and certainly less safe than the associates or partners).
For those of you who would use this to point out that contracting is just as secure as any other job out there, think again. If you are an associate somewhere, even if all you have ever done is Document Review work, you are perceived to have a skill set, as a contractor you are not. As an associate, even in situations like this you are entitled to certain benefits, or portions thereof, as a contractor you are entitled to nothing. As a contractor, you will likely be the first one out on the street, and the last one to be hired by a new firm. There is more job security as a full-time employee, and a recognized skill set that comes along with the position which makes you more mobile when it comes to looking for new employment.
Contract attorneys actually do have a skill set, but you wouldn't know it from the way firms treat applicants for full-time positions that have primarily contract experience, nor from the way that they treat contractors on document reviews for the firms (firms tend to treat contractors as idiots who barely graduated high school, and believe that anyone can do the work, though the last associate that I saw code a document screwed it up and crashed the system). The real question is how to make that skill set known and transferable.
I digress though, what are your thoughts.
As far as those of you asking about additional work, I have no updates other than to say it sounds like several contract firms are trolling for resumes. And I am sure for positions to post people in, but many of them do not have positions ready immediately.
Feel free to comment.
Black Sheep
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http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/lgl/1875026188.html
Man. $10/hour.
I'm amazed the ad didn't require you to pay for your own malpractice insurance or bring your own chair.
Well, it looks like the Providus project is not gonna happen.
...Do this, don't do that, can't you read the felch.
http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/lgl/1889652503.html
There's a get together to celebrate the life and coding of Steve Schmits.
Bridgewater's Pub (30th Street Station) 7-9pm this Friday.
I'll spill some beer and click a mouse for a fallen coder.
http://southjersey.craigslist.org/lgl/1957355583.html
No more Stradley huh??
I declare this blog officially dead. It was fun while it lasted folks. It would be nice if another blog existed for Philly contract attorneys.
many firms are now even using associates for doc review
fascinating
Well, it's official. The RRD project that started in the far Northeast and moved to 1800 JFK has finally ended.
It's been fun, friends.
See you at the next review.
Happy TG, follow coders! Eat drink and be merry!
WTF?
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20101207_U__of_Delaware_considers_a_new_law_school.html
the link is not working. what is the story?
There is also a story on Above the Law. University of Delaware is thinking of adding a law school. No reason. Just because they can.
http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/lgl/2115845606.html
http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/lgl/2132768387.html
are there any doc review projecs going on in Philly right now? What are they? Is anyone hiring?
What happened to the temps in the basement?
The temps in the basement are still there, chained to their desks.
Is it true that Hudson no longer has a Philly office? Can't be can it?
Happy 2nd anniversary, Wolf Block is Dead. It's been a pretty boring year on this blog. Is anyone working doc review in Philly? If so, what is the scoop? projects? rates? conditions? etc.
http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/lgl/2388285949.html
Is it true that some agencies make you sign an agreement not to blog about projects? Maybe that's why all the contract attorney blogs are silent these days.
Some agencies make you sign an agreement not to drink at work, too.
So far, it seems that the going rate in Philly is $30 or so. Topaz Metzler Check had a few projects for 32-35, but they required specific knowledge (patent/IP/securities).
I'm at a gig at a Philly firm that I had never heard of before. The regular coders are being paid $33.
And if this doesn't show that hiring decisions are made arbitrarily, I'm a team lead.
The old philadelphia portion of the hudson/merck vioxx project is officially over, 6 years and 5months after it began.
Amazing! Only 3.5 years after the case settles. Does this mean Hudson is done in Philadelphia?
Does anyone know where I can buy some gum?
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http://southjersey.craigslist.org/lgl/2531909040.html
Looks like Special Counsel has a few big projects.
Is it true Kelly is staffing a big project?
At least it's the summer. I can convince myself that being laid off is like a semi-paid vacation.
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Merry Christmas, fellow coders. Let us all raise a mug of Popov to celebrate our good fortune.
Jeebus-
We're still coding at a firm I'd never heard of in the new year.
What's up in Codeville these days. What projects are there?
I've been out of doc review for 7 months now and I'm pretty damn happy.
Practicin' law be hard.
Doc review paid the bills, but damn if it didn't do some long term damage.
I do promise to not turn my nose up at my fellow click monkeys. In fact, I may be able to hire one soon.
Happy 4th birthday to this thread.
Started my second non doc review job a month ago.
I don't regret doing doc review- made me appreciate what I'm doing now.
But whatever happened to the temps in the basement? Did they turn into CHUD? Does Denise call them occasionally to ask their availability?
Happy 5th birthday to this thread!
What ever happened to the temps in the basement?
Wow, this site's still up.
Code Monkey
Indeed it is. And for some reason, I keep checking it.
And I'm checking again. Miss you guys.
Code Monkey
Happy new year, current and former temps. Get back to work.
Denise Asnes
I think this blog will outlast us all.
Still Coding. Still getting paid.
Not many raises though.
I miss you guys.
Are there still doc reviewers in the Deuce?
Are there any jobs out there that allow you to code from home?
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